Comments on: Guinness and Gouache Portrait WIP http://www.crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/ An Ode to Art and Beer Sun, 05 Feb 2012 05:53:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Meg http://www.crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/comment-page-1/#comment-164 Meg Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:55:07 +0000 http://crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/#comment-164 Lumpafur, The method I used really reminded me of paint-by-number - but I think if you have small enough, detailed enough areas, it doens't look like a paint-by-number at all. I tried a bit of blending on the edges of the left chin, but I was a complete newbie at it and just made it look muddy. Honestly, there was very little edge blending, anywhere. I think the most I did was in the shirt collar. No scumbling either - I didn't even know what scumbling was when I painted this! I am still learning a lot about gouache, but haven't tried scumbling or glazing yet. I will, though, and will post about it when I do! Lumpafur,

The method I used really reminded me of paint-by-number – but I think if you have small enough, detailed enough areas, it doens’t look like a paint-by-number at all.

I tried a bit of blending on the edges of the left chin, but I was a complete newbie at it and just made it look muddy. Honestly, there was very little edge blending, anywhere. I think the most I did was in the shirt collar.

No scumbling either – I didn’t even know what scumbling was when I painted this! I am still learning a lot about gouache, but haven’t tried scumbling or glazing yet. I will, though, and will post about it when I do!

]]> By: Lumpafur http://www.crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/comment-page-1/#comment-161 Lumpafur Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:32:58 +0000 http://crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/#comment-161 What abou the blending? This does not look like a paint by number picture, wher we have all the values and colors painted on and unblended. You did each section in a pragmatic way, reminding me of when I did paint by numbers as a kid, but, your result also has blending. Did you scumble? If so, could you shouw us how? It's just beautiful!!! What abou the blending? This does not look like a paint by number picture, wher we have all the values and colors painted on and unblended. You did each section in a pragmatic way, reminding me of when I did paint by numbers as a kid, but, your result also has blending. Did you scumble? If so, could you shouw us how? It’s just beautiful!!!

]]> By: Meg http://www.crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Meg Sun, 04 Mar 2007 20:55:00 +0000 http://crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/#comment-11 I think every artist should be open & helpful, because they wouldn't be where they are today without the help of others. I love sharing what I know and reading what other artists have shared.<BR/><BR/>I wish you the best of luck with your BFA and your career - I'm also a bit jealous. I really would like to get a BFA someday.<BR/><BR/>I know FredFlickstone's (aka Ron Lemen) images are gone, and it's a shame. But here are some links that shows some of his work and tutorials:<BR/><a HREF="http://www.anticz.com/handtut.htm" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Hands</A><BR/><a HREF="http://www.anticz.com/heads.htm" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Heads</A><BR/><a HREF="http://www.anticz.com/drawing1.htm" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Light and Dark</A><BR/><a HREF="http://www.roguecreations.com/ron_lemen/paintings.html" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Ron's Paintings</A><BR/><a HREF="http://www.geocities.com/lemenayd/index.html" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Ron's Paintings again</A><BR/><BR/>I'll see you on the boards (I'm "meglyman")... can't wait to see your gouache!<BR/><BR/>Meg I think every artist should be open & helpful, because they wouldn’t be where they are today without the help of others. I love sharing what I know and reading what other artists have shared.

I wish you the best of luck with your BFA and your career – I’m also a bit jealous. I really would like to get a BFA someday.

I know FredFlickstone’s (aka Ron Lemen) images are gone, and it’s a shame. But here are some links that shows some of his work and tutorials:
Hands
Heads
Light and Dark
Ron’s Paintings
Ron’s Paintings again

I’ll see you on the boards (I’m “meglyman”)… can’t wait to see your gouache!

Meg

]]> By: Dave http://www.crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Dave Sat, 03 Mar 2007 23:03:00 +0000 http://crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/#comment-12 Thank you so much for being open about your process and willing to provide a thorough explanation. I really appreciate you taking the time. I am a 30 yr. old military vet and I am back in school full-time pursuing a BFA, majoring in illustration. I am right now in the midst of my freshman year. My point is, I need all the help I can get! I'm gonna look back through the CA threads as well, many of those Fredflickstones threads no longer have images. I go by Anuran on Wetcanvas,CA and a host of other forums so I'm sure I will get an opportunity to talk to you again. I'll also be able to show my first Gouache painting soon...it's due wednesday :) Thank you again. Thank you so much for being open about your process and willing to provide a thorough explanation. I really appreciate you taking the time. I am a 30 yr. old military vet and I am back in school full-time pursuing a BFA, majoring in illustration. I am right now in the midst of my freshman year. My point is, I need all the help I can get! I’m gonna look back through the CA threads as well, many of those Fredflickstones threads no longer have images. I go by Anuran on Wetcanvas,CA and a host of other forums so I’m sure I will get an opportunity to talk to you again. I’ll also be able to show my first Gouache painting soon…it’s due wednesday :) Thank you again.

]]> By: Dave http://www.crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Dave Sat, 03 Mar 2007 19:23:00 +0000 http://crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/#comment-14 This is a very interesting style and a very striking portrait with a very graphic feel. I was curious about the process you used to map the different values. Could you explain how you managed to separate and create those interesting shapes? This is a very interesting style and a very striking portrait with a very graphic feel. I was curious about the process you used to map the different values. Could you explain how you managed to separate and create those interesting shapes?

]]> By: Meg http://www.crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Meg Sat, 03 Mar 2007 18:02:00 +0000 http://crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/#comment-13 Hey Dave!<BR/><BR/>I spent some time working out the values in monotone, as practice: <a HREF="http://kolyma.blogspot.com/2006/12/terrapin-coffee-oatmeal-imperial-stout.html" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">[link]</A>. You can see the photo and a couple studies. These helped me later on.<BR/><BR/>The first step I took was choosing the colors. The flesh tones were yellower for the forehead area, redder for the cheek area, and bluer for the chin.<BR/><BR/>I had drawn some of the value demarkations on the board, but only the major divisions (wrinkles, obvious lines, highlights). Then I went in with the medium values in each of the three color zones. I knew where the highlights and darkest values were, so I put the medium values in-between, leaving areas around the darks and highlights so that I could create smooth transitions.<BR/><BR/>Throughout the painting process, I kept referencing the photo as a value guideline. However, I did push the darks darker to make a more dramatic contrast.<BR/><BR/>Hope that answers your question. If not, let me know!<BR/><BR/>Meg Hey Dave!

I spent some time working out the values in monotone, as practice: [link]. You can see the photo and a couple studies. These helped me later on.

The first step I took was choosing the colors. The flesh tones were yellower for the forehead area, redder for the cheek area, and bluer for the chin.

I had drawn some of the value demarkations on the board, but only the major divisions (wrinkles, obvious lines, highlights). Then I went in with the medium values in each of the three color zones. I knew where the highlights and darkest values were, so I put the medium values in-between, leaving areas around the darks and highlights so that I could create smooth transitions.

Throughout the painting process, I kept referencing the photo as a value guideline. However, I did push the darks darker to make a more dramatic contrast.

Hope that answers your question. If not, let me know!

Meg

]]> By: Aunt Marilyn http://www.crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Aunt Marilyn Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:29:00 +0000 http://crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/#comment-15 Thanks for sending/sharing these<br />photos Meg! They are great...and<br />so are the beer reviews!! Thanks for sending/sharing these
photos Meg! They are great…and
so are the beer reviews!!

]]> By: Meg http://www.crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Meg Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:46:00 +0000 http://crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/#comment-16 Thank you both for looking! He certainly was the best subject anyone could ask for. Thank you both for looking! He certainly was the best subject anyone could ask for.

]]> By: Will http://www.crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/comment-page-1/#comment-17 Will Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:11:00 +0000 http://crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/#comment-17 cool stuff meg! awesome depiction of an awesome man. cool stuff meg! awesome depiction of an awesome man.

]]> By: Leah http://www.crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Leah Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:43:00 +0000 http://crashoctopus.com/2007/01/07/guinness-and-gouache-portrait-wip/#comment-18 step-by-step--whoaaa. step-by-step–whoaaa.

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